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gamecreator · 04.07.2010 02:18

maybe simplelod? but it will do this in easy way, without wogfile and h3wupd.

Valery · 04.07.2010 04:02

I have no idea how it would work, but should not be very difficult. My concern is that 99% of players have no idea what compression is wog, what are creatures names, what is a def tool, what is a def, what is a lod. They would love to play with new models but the install process is too heavy for them.

Of course the mapmaker can provide a wog file with all names setup (we always did that), but in the case one just build some custom defs and the player should pick which creature to replace, build the wog file, pick name, he is helpless. What is easy for modders may become very complicate for players to implement. Should be automatized, if there is a slight chance it can. (not a request from me, but a suggestion, and I could help for listing them etc)
The creatures archive (HC) count so far more than 120 new models, but still no one picks them, for obvious reasons: they have no idea how to do it.

gamecreator · 04.07.2010 19:35

it's easy to create a program with that choice. it will simply copy the file with new name and call simplelod to pack it. the hardest is collect creature list with corresponding def names.

Valery · 04.07.2010 19:49

I can make such list if one of you agree to make that program.

1) Ask to browse for def
2) Ask which creature should replace and show list of all creatures
3) Rename the def (keep backup)
4) ask for HoMM folder location and Import in lod
5,6,7,8) Optional ask for adventure map def and do same thing.

gamecreator · 04.07.2010 20:54

well, ok. i'm waiting for three lists.

Valery · 04.07.2010 21:12

Great. Give me an example on how they would need to look please.
0 Pikeman/cpkman.def
1 Halberdier/chalbd.def
etc? (def tool has this list inside)

Same for small defs?

And third is for what?

gamecreator · 04.07.2010 21:24

one list of names. one list of def names. one list of map def names.
they can be in any form, but all lines formatted in the same way (as in your sample).

you can add map def names to the end of each line.

Valery · 04.07.2010 21:32

0 Pikeman/cpkman.def/AvWPike.def
1 Halberdier/chalbd.def/AVWpikx0.def
etc

Is this format good?

gamecreator · 04.07.2010 21:34

yes

Valery · 07.07.2010 12:47

Ouf! that was long to do. Is this good or need to rearrange better for you?

Code:

0  Pikeman cpkman.def AvWPike.def

1  Halberdier chalbd.def AVWpikx0.def

2  Archer clcbow.def AvWLCrs.def

3  Marksman chcbow.def AvWHCrs.def

4  Griffin cgriff.def AvWGrif.def

5  Royal Griffin crgrif.def AVWgrix0.def

6  Swordsman csword.def AVWswrd0.def

7  Crusader ccrusd.def AVWswrx0.def

8  Monk cmonkk.def AvWMonk.def

9  Zealot czealt.def AVWmonx0.def

10  Cavalier ccavlr.def AVWcvlr0.def

11  Champion cchamp.def AVWcvlx0.def

12  Angel cangel.def AvWAngl.def

13  Archangel crangl.def AvWArch.def

14  Centaur ccentr.def AVWcent0.def

15  Centaur Captain cecent.def AVWcenx0.def

16  Dwarf cdwarf.def AVWdwrf0.def

17  Battle Dwarf cbdwar.def AVWdwrx0.def

18  Wood Elf celf.def AVWelfw0.def

19  Grand Elf cgrelf.def AVWelfx0.def

20  Pegasus cpegas.def AVWpega0.def

21  Silver Pegasus capegs.def AVWpegx0.def

22  Dendroid Guard ctree.def AVWtree0.def

23  Dendroid Soldier cbtree.def AVWtrex0.def

24  Unicorn cunico.def AVWunic0.def

25  War Unicorn cwunic.def AVWunix0.def

26  Green Dragon cgdrag.def AVWdrag0.def

27  Gold Dragon cddrag.def AVWdrax0.def

28  Gremlin cgrema.def AVWgrem0.def

29  Master Gremlin cgremm.def AVWgrex0.def

30  Stone Gargoyle cgargo.def AVWgarg0.def

31  Obsidian Gargoyle cogarg.def AVWgarx0.def

32  Stone Golem csgole.def AVWgolm0.def

33  Iron Golem cigole.def AVWgolx0.def

34  Mage cmage.def AVWmage0.def

35  Arch Mage camage.def AVWmagx0.def

36  Genie cgenie.def AVWgeni0.def

37  Master Genie csulta.def AVWgenx0.def

38  Naga cnaga.def AVWnaga0.def

39  Naga Queen cnagag.def AVWnagx0.def

40  Giant cltita.def AVWtitn0.def

41  Titan cgtita.def AVWtitx0.def

42  Imp cimp.def AVWimp0.def

43  Familiar cfamil.def AVWimpx0.def

44  Gog cgog.def AVWgog0.def

45  Magog cmagog.def AVWgogx0.def

46  Hell Hound chhoun.def AVWhoun0.def

47  Cerberus ccerbu.def AVWhoux0.def

48  Demon cohdem.def AVWdemn0.def

49  Horned Demon cthdem.def AVWdemx0.def

50  Pit Fiend cpfien.def AVWpitf0.def

51  Pit Lord cpfoe.def AVWpitx0.def

52  Efreeti cefree.def AVWefre0.def

53  Efreet Sultan cefres.def AVWefrx0.def

54  Devil cdevil.def AVWdevl0.def

55  Arch Devil cadevl.def AVWdevx0.def

56  Skeleton cskele.def AVWskel0.def

57  Skeleton Warrior cwskel.def AVWskex0.def

58  Walking Dead czombi.def AVWzomb0.def

59  Zombie czomlo.def AVWzomx0.def

60  Wight cwight.def  AvWWigh.def

61  Wraith cwrait.def AVWwigx0.def

62  Vampire cvamp.def AVWvamp0.def

63  Vampire Lord cnosfe.def AVWvamx0.def

64  Lich clich.def AVWlich0.def

65  Power Lich cplich.def AVWlicx0.def

66  Black Knight cbknig.def AVWbkni0.def

67  Dread Knight cblord.def AVWbknx0.def

68  Bone Dragon cndrgn.def AVWbone0.def

69  Ghost Dragon chdrgn.def AVWbonx0.def

70  Troglodyte ctrogl.def AVWtrog0.def

71  Infernal Troglodyte citrog.def AvWInfr.def

72  Harpy charpy.def AVWharp0.def

73  Harpy Hag charph.def AVWharx0.def

74  Beholder cbehol.def AVWbehl0.def

75  Evil Eye ceveye.def AVWbehx0.def

76  Medusa cmedus.def AvWMeds.def

77  Medusa Queen cmeduq.def AVWmedx0.def

78  Minotaur cminot.def  AvWMino.def

79  Minotaur King cminok.def AVWminx0.def

80  Manticore cmcore.def AVWmant0.def

81  Scorpicore ccmcor.def AVWmanx0.def

82  Red Dragon crdrgn.def AvWRDrg.def

83  Black Dragon cbdrgn.def AVWddrx0.def

84  Goblin cgobli.def AVWgobl0.def

85  Hobgoblin chgobl.def AVWgobx0.def

86  Wolf Rider cbwlfr.def AVWwolf0.def

87  Wolf Raider cuwlfr.def AVWwolx0.def

88  Orc corc.def AVWorc0.def

89  Orc Chieftain corcch.def AVWorcx0.def

90  Ogre cogre.def AVWogre0.def

91  Ogre Mage cogmag.def AVWogrx0.def

92  Roc croc.def AVWroc0.def

93  Thunderbird ctbird.def AVWrocx0.def

94  Cyclops ccyclr.def AVWcycl0.def

95  Cyclops King ccycllor.def AVWcycx0.def

96  Behemoth cybehe.def AVWbhmt0.def

97  Ancient Behemoth cabehe.def AVWbhmx0.def

98  Gnoll cgnoll.def AVWgnll0.def

99  Gnoll Marauder cgnolm.def AVWgnlx0.def

100  Lizardman cpliza.def AvWLizr.def

101  Lizard Warrior caliza.def AVWlizx0.def

102  Gorgon ccgorg.def AvWGorg.def

103  Mighty Gorgon cbgog.def AVWgorx0.def

104  Serpent Fly cdrfly.def AvWDFly.def

105  Dragon Fly cdrfir.def AvWDFir.def

106  Basilisk cbasil.def AvWBasl.def

107  Greater Basilisk cgbasi.def AvWGBas.def

108  Wyvern cwyver.def AvWWyvr.def

109  Wyvern Monarch cwyvmn.def AVWwyvx0.def

110  Hydra chydra.def AvWHydr.def

111  Chaos Hydra cchydr.def AVWhydx0.def

112  Air Elemental caelem.def AVWelma0.def

113  Earth Elemental ceelem.def AVWelme0.def

114  Fire Elemental cfelem.def AVWelmf0.def

115  Water Elemental cwelem.def AVWelmw0.def

116  Gold Golem cggole.def AVWglmg0.def

117  Diamond Golem cdgole.def AVWglmd0.def

118  Pixie cpixie.def AVWpixie.def

119  Sprite csprite.def AVWsprit.def

120  Psychic Elemental CpsyEl.def AVWpsye.def

121  Magic Elemental CmagEl.def AVWmagel.def

122  NOT USED (

123  Ice Elemental cicee.def AVWicee.def

124  NOT USED (

125  Magma Elemental cstone.def AVWstone.def

126  NOT USED (

127  Storm Elemental cstorm.def AVWstorm.def

128  NOT USED (

129  Energy Elemental cnrg.def AVWnrg.def

130  Firebird cfbird.def AVWfbird.def

131  Phoenix cphx.def AVWphx.def

132  Azure Dragon CADRGN.def AVWazure.def

133  Crystal Dragon Ccdrgn.def AVWcdrg.def

134  Faerie Dragon CFDRGN.def AVWfdrg.def

135  Rust Dragon CRsDgn.def AVWrust.def

136  Enchanter cench.def AVWench.def

137  Sharpshooter csharp.def AVWsharp.def

138  Halfling chalf.def AVWhalf.def

139  Peasant cpeas.def AVWpeas.def

140  Boar cboar.def AVWboar.def

141  Mummy cmummy.def AVWmumy.def

142  Nomad cnomad.def AVWnomd.def

143  Rogue crogue.def AVWrog.def

144  Troll ctroll.def AVWtrll.def

145  Catapult smcata.def AVA0003.def

146  Ballista smbal.def AVA0004.def

147  First Aid Tent smtent.def AVA0006.def

148  Ammo Cart smcart.def AVA0005.def

149  Arrow Towers

150  Supreme Archangel ZM150Z.def ZMM150Z.def

151  Diamond Dragon ZM151Z.def ZMM151Z.def

152  Lord of Thunder ZM152Z.def ZMM152Z.def

153  Antichrist ZM153Z.def ZMM153Z.def

154  Blood Dragon ZM154Z.def ZMM154Z.def

155  Darkness Dragon ZM155Z.def ZMM155Z.def

156  Ghost Behemoth ZM156Z.def ZMM156Z.def

157  Hell Hydra ZM157Z.def ZMM157Z.def

158  Sacred Phoenix ZM158Z.def ZMM158Z.def

159  Ghost ZM159G.def Z358O8.def

160  Emissary of War ZM160G.def ZMM160G.def

161  Emissary of Peace ZM161G.def ZMM161G.def

162  Emissary of Mana ZM162G.def ZMM162G.def

163  Emissary of Lore ZM163G.def ZMM163G.def

164  Fire Messenger ZM164GD.def ZMM164D.def

165  Earth Messenger ZM165GD.def ZMM165D.def

166  Air Messenger ZM166GD.def ZMM166D.def

167  Water Messenger ZM167GD.def ZMM167D.def

168  Gorynych ZM168DG.def ZMM168G.def

169  War zealot ZM169ZL.def ZMM169Z.def

170  Arctic Sharpshooter ZM170SW.def ZMM170S.def

171  Lava Sharpshooter ZM171SR.def ZMM171S.def

172  Nightmare ZM172N.def ZMM172N.def

173  Santa Gremlin ZM173M.def ZMM173M.def

174  Paladin (attacker) ZM174NPC.def ZMM174N.def

175  Hierophant (attacker) ZM175NPC.def ZMM175N.def

176  Temple Guardian (attacker) ZM176NPC.def ZMM176N.def

177  Succubus (attacker) ZM177NPC.def ZMM177N.def

178  Soul Eater (attacker) ZM178NPC.def ZMM178N.def

179  Brute (attacker) ZM179NPC.def ZMM179N.def

180  Ogre Leader (attacker) ZM180NPC.def ZMM180N.def

181  Shaman (attacker) ZM181NPC.def ZMM181N.def

182  Astral Spirit (attacker) ZM182NPC.def ZMM182N.def

183  Paladin (defender) 

184  Hierophant (defender)

185  Temple Guardian (defender)

186  Succubus (defender)

187  Soul Eater (defender)

188  Brute (defender)

189  Ogre Leader (defender)

190  Shaman (defender)

191  Astral Spirit (defender)

192  Sylvan Centaur ZM192Z.def ZMM192Z.def

193  Sorceress ZM193Z.def ZMM193Z.def

194  Werewolf ZM194Z.def ZMM194Z.def

195  Hell Steed ZM195Z.def ZMM195Z.def

196  Dracolich ZM196Z.def ZMM196Z.def

gamecreator · 07.07.2010 20:49

good

FallenAngel · 07.07.2010 21:12

Valery, I saw something like that on HC (about lists)

Valery · 07.07.2010 23:47

Yes, something like that but badly done (no order) so skipped.

Extracted CIV IV BS elephants:

Asian War Elephant
Image: we1.gif

Middle-East War Elephant
Image: we1r.gif

Khmer Elephant
Image: 66678719.gif

South-America War Elephant
Image: 69070025.gif

Greco-roman War Elephant
Image: welb.gif

Download

Gamecreator, tell me if I can do anything more for that tool.

Valery · 19.07.2010 04:20

A few more for those who dream of huge campaigns.

Asian Faction

Spoiler (Click to View)

Download

3 camels

Spoiler (Click to View)

DOWNLOAD

A few more knights and a wet girl to botch her

Spoiler (Click to View)

Download

Two unusual units:

Spoiler (Click to View)

Download

Valery · 26.07.2010 09:34

I can't anymore install WoG, I get this:

C:\Program Files\3DO\Heroes 3 Complete\Data\H3Bitmap.lod Size = 105724954
Critical error in file C:\Program Files\3DO\Heroes 3 Complete\InstallWoG\AISHIELD.PCX, install aborted
Erro in action: Free pointer file
End installing with error

What could that mean? I tried different packages and everyone got the same wogdebug issue. I still can install small .wog files through update, but getting a new clean wog is no more possible.

Is there a link to a full version of Heroes+WoG already compiled?

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